The Spanking Gene
or
The Autistic and the Blade Seven
Eisler spends this one on Systems and Change theories, Chaos theory to explain the extreme social change. I spend some arguing, trying to make a case about genes and evolution, arguing with the very idea of “cultural evolution.”
I spend some time trying parse it and “social models,” and make the case that the “treatment,” of Autistic children proves the existence of the Spanking Gene, that a lack of a normal response to spanking is considered pathological.
Memories of a Lost Age: The Legacy of the Goddess
OK, now we’re talking about why the transformation, and they offer two lines of reasoning, the first of which I already skirted once, the Chaos theory stuff, but let’s skirt it again. I mean, I’m not going to attempt to critique Chaos theory, but perhaps some of the reasons they think we need it.
This is a place where we part ways, I think.
It says we have lost the truth of our comparatively pleasant past society, relegated it to myth and/or fantasy, and the way we speak about the world today makes this past sort of impossible to understand or believe. They say people can learn this truth about the past and then forget it again, as it gets re-buried under the modern idea, and this is true, I had slipped back in ways, despite this book basically set my whole path (despite even my divergence, and no, this does not help my general argument, I know). They say they think we need to let it sink in, teach it for a few centuries to make it real, and . . .
. . . and don’t anyone tell Eisler from the 80s, this is my speech about evolution, that it doesn’t sink in as regards people, at least, and we have been teaching that for a while, nearly two hundred years in spots. I think we were trying to talk about genes and Neurotype here, but we lacked the words and the concepts, much of the world still does.
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Chapter Five
Memories of a Lost Age:
The Legacy of the Goddess
“Evolution and Transformation”
Caveats again, always, I do not understand the premise, the Chaos theory. I need to argue with the questions, before the answers start. This seems like it will fill an entry:
“In the last chapter we saw the dynamics of the first great social shift in our cultural evolution: how after a period of systems disequilibrium, or chaos, there was a critical bifurcation point out of which an entirely different social system emerged.”
I mean, I don’t even like, “cultural evolution.” This, from my perspective, is a bit of a copout, this is a term that exists to deny our actual, biological evolution that we put ourselves through with our self created environments, “we,” don’t evolve anymore, but something is changing – must be the “culture” evolving – like, without us!
I suppose I just weeded out every reader with that, I’m sorry. I’m self-directed.
But I am “right,” about that, I swear, within my Neurotype. Creatures evolve. Sure, maybe cultures do too, but not without their creatures, not without the creatures’ minds have changed. It SOUNDS like evolution, doesn’t it, “cultural evolution,” but if it needs to exist in a world where there isn’t environmental biological evolution of the living things within the system, it’s at least a lie of omission, and in the end, “net” creationist, sort of.
Dominator society doesn’t think people are subject to evolution, somehow. I don’t mean to include Eisler as a Dominator here, only as a modern person, perhaps as Neurotypical, Allistic, and maybe not that either, but the world of this science is absolutely Allistic, I mean it’s from the Yes side of the Spanking Gene and it doesn’t think humans are evolving today. Neurodiversity theory, at least my version, explains both the situation and the theories: there are sorts who think that way, simple as that, that’s the plain, where the rubber meets the road truth about Neurodiversity, different sorts think differently. There is pushback to saying different sorts, different Neurotypes have different thoughts, I think it’s misguided, I think it’s the entire point.
OK, back to the quote:
I missed the bifurcation point. After, you say, AFTER the Neolithic collapse and the long dark period, AFTER there was a “bifurcation?” So when they settled down enough to build cities again, THEN they faced a choice? I’m confused. I’ll finish my thought and then go back looking for it. Won’t take long: Dominators arrived and took over, and two thousand years later, Dominators learned to build cities, wasn’t the first part the causative thing, their arrival, their deliberate replacing of the whole Neolithic gene pool?
Why a “bifurcation point,” that is different from the collapse itself, and if that isn’t the point that mattered, why not two thousand years of genetics and evolution? “An entirely different social system,” – you mean a third one, not the old one, not the invaders’? It sounds like it’s the invaders’ “social system,” all the way through.
Ah, you know what?
The research is good, the data is good, it’s only trying to impose this dynamic change stuff on it that’s bad. They lay it all out, I form an understanding, then they say, “we think it’s because this,” and lose me. This, a little later, gives it the error:
“Biological evolution entails what scientists call speciation: the emergence of a wide variety of progressively more complex forms of life. By contrast, human cultural evolution relates to the development of ONE (italics theirs) highly complex species – ours – that has two different forms: the female and the male.”
Neurodiversity means we are more highly complex than that, and we wouldn’t be looking for magic chaos if we weren’t stuck on that “one.” When two completely different things, Dominators and Partnership sorts have to be “one,” somehow, you are going to end up referencing the wobbly nature of the universe or some such soft thought to try to make sense of it.
Good Lady, this evolution does diversity, but THIS evolution does the opposite? Really?
Sorry. And this:
“Consequently, the DIRECTION (italics theirs) of our cultural evolution – particularly whether it will be peaceful or warlike – depends on which of these models is the guide for evolution.”
There is something sideways about that sentence, but my attempts to break it down go in circles: the model, or the Neurotype, sets the model it pursues. Like addiction psychology, the model would have to want to change. It would have to learn to want something else, like in the case of addiction to pain killer, of wanting some buffer between ourselves and the world, these desires have to be unlearned and connection to people and the world learned in its place.
So what does this model want now?
Killing, by the last chapter, but what is killing emotionally? I think something like revenge, like I always say, spanking creates an unhealthy need. It’s clear and horrifying at four thousand BCE, that model wants, perhaps needs, to hurt people.
It’s weirdly circular, whatever “model” you choose to chase with your self-directed evolution, the other sort of evolution already set for you, your model is what you evolved to choose . . . I think the thing is, you are the flatworm, not the guy in the lab coat, you are the experiment, not the experimenter. You’re not setting any models, only following them.
I think. Not much confidence, it’s too convoluted. Certainly things happen when we try to guide our development. Regardless, whether “cultural evolution,” is a thing or not, biological evolution is going to have precedence.
I’m sure it sounds mad to you all, but what would be a better way to create our “Kurgans,” than child abuse? I glimpsed it at the start, that there’s not much you can do with the redesignation from social model to Neurotype, this project, this reinterpretation has to be about spanking and the Spanking Gene. It is the logical kernel at the heart of the entire disaster of the human race.
I mean it’s both, a chicken and egg thing: spanking makes for the violent Neurotype, is my idea.
Again, I can’t say exactly when they became chickens, but they are still chickens for the very good reason that we are still breeding them as such, keeping their environment stable, as I said about Dominators, they are still Dominators for the very good reason that we are still breeding and creating them as such, keeping their environment stable by still dominating the shit out of every one of them at the outset of their lives and holding up the results as the “social model,” all ought to follow.
That is spanking.
That it’s a matter of Neurotype, the actions of the Allistics who deal in Neurotype are instructive, in a backwards sort of a way, the “Autism doctors,” know this, that spanking grows Allists and works on Allists, because they know that the Autistic “patients,” lack this response, and require far more abuse to show any of it, and so ABA. They acknowledge that the Allistic has a built in response to abuse, because they pathologize the lack of this response in Autistic children.
The Dominator’s world requires this response.
Their data, my read. Autistics sort of have to do that with everything, that’s why some developmental delays, Allistic data all has to be processed our way. We need our own science, history, and everything. The Allistic view is a glare that obscures everything and hurts my eyes.
So, thanks for reading this far, nice meeting you all, have a nice life. This is the end for most of you, not that most of you even started. I put it all on the thing you never had a chance to care about, the thing no-one factors into anything. The Road Less Travelled guy has no idea.
No other creature spanks. No, lions do not spank, just they don’t like to share food and they have a pecking order. It is not a system of ubiquitous cub abuse.
But even out here on this long limb alone, with no critics, I see I have a problem.
Animal husbandry appears to teach something other than punishment, traditional herders today do not abuse their flocks, or expect sheep or cows to learn from punishments, it is difficult to imagine that our “Kurgan,” blade worshipping invaders had any success abusing their animals either, and that a pastoral lifestyle caused this destructive shift. So they brought it with them, but they maybe couldn’t have developed it themselves, at least not in this phase of their existence, perhaps before they moved into herding from some other way of life?
I hate to speculate overly, but that one tiny step seems not awful, we’ll keep it in mind.
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Chapter Five
Memories of a Lost Age: The Legacy of the Goddess
“A Golden Race and the Legend of Atlantis”
At the start of the previous section, they said there were two lines of reasoning, the first being some modern theories about how and why such dramatic social changes are possible, as well as the evidence again that some very dramatic change did indeed occur, and this section is to be the second one: the continued existence of the Goddess and her roles well into history, and the examples of goddesses, all likely formerly THE Goddess, and her jurisdictions, all central to culture are many and wonderful. Giver of Laws, Bringer of Civilization, Teacher of Farming.
I need to say, I am finally processing it, the error of my numbers, my dates and the disaster did not begin as long ago as I thought and was rather less gradual. I was imagining some start to it fifteen thousand years ago, we really don’t get a whiff of the trouble in our “west,” at least until as they say, six thousand years ago, I am three times too far back, two and a quarter to three times too far back, when I imaging the beginning of the end at twelve to fifteen thousand years ago.
It still has to be longer than the six globally, I think, because Dominator society came on horseback, it didn’t spring up locally, at least not in the “west.” There is some time during which other parts of the world had already made the shift, and perhaps it was not long or we’d know it by now. But again, it arrived from both the north and the south, was it spontaneous in both directions, or is there some longer history of the gene’s domination eating up the rest of the world before it got to Europe and the near east? I assume there must be?
The fact that that society shows up as invaders suggests though, that when it does take hold, it lets the neighbours know about it, so if they were living the constant warfare that they were when we met them when they were still on the steppes for another five thousand years, that they would have come calling then, ten thousand years ago and they didn’t so, I suppose the longer history elsewhere is not as long as my dates, perhaps this is something that happened in Asia only generations or centuries, maybe only a millennium or two before?
Just long enough for it to have spread from north to south before turning west? Like that? It’s sort of hard to imagine these two worlds living side by side, sharing a border and needing a flood to make invaders invade, I suspect it spreads automatically, sort of, like Ice Nine if you know Vonnegut, at some rate related to generations, and if it took a millennium or three to completely change Europe and Anatolia, that it took the same sort of time to take the same amount of geography in Asia, from wherever it began, at some regular rate.
I suppose if it began in Japan it wouldn’t have taken five thousand years to reach the near east at nearly any rate. A real beginning for this human type might be more recent than the agricultural revolution, than the neolithic cities. Like, not twelve or fifteen thousand years ago, as I’ve been saying, but almost definitely less than ten, again, or it would have found us sooner. Like, seven or eight, tops? It was a fire that consumed all of Eurasia in two or three thousand years, north to south, I mean it did Europe and the near east in one or three, is the point of Gimbutas’ work. So Asia maybe took longer?
I’m spending some time on Wikipedia, looking at maps of the Kurgan/Steppe hypotheses and it does sort of look like the northern steppes are at least a distribution centre for the violent culture changes – but they are already like this when we meet them, apparently the previous population and language maps are lost in time. The maps of the “Kurgan,” do not seem to explain the warlike tribes invading from the “southern deserts,” unless that reference referred to a later millennium, which would be odd, it’s on the same page as the Kurgan stuff
You know, I shouldn’t dabble like this, I’m having a bit of fun and learning what I’m trying to refute, but beginnings aren’t the point. I just thought if I could find the ballpark, I could start talking about generations, and evolution, and genetics and Neurotype, I’m trying to find a context, get a feel for the pace of the drift, one date and one place isn’t really enough to triangulate anything, to deduce the universe requires three facts, not two. It’s getting less fuzzy, but I admit, not much.
Still gradual. This chapter shows that the goddesses had more power during Sumer’s beginning than at its end, and this trend, I assume is evolution, the Dominator thing isn’t a static Nature, it grows, like all living things in the world of genes and evolution. There were retro movements, some back and forth, people wanting to go back to the old world, which eventually quiet down, no doubt in the face of bronze swords. Eventually, as the environment changes, people adapt and move “forward.”
Again, the Mother of God still exists for a lot of people, the genetic drift of the Dominator world is not complete yet, time still flows, and while it tries to grow, so do other things.
The point of my overestimation is the implications. I’ve been saying this mindset lasted fifteen thousand years before the climate succumbed, and it’s only been half of that, this version of humanity is only half as viable as I thought, twice as non-viable. Oh!
There was/is a psychologist, one Julian Jaynes, who thought the change signified a move into the left hemisphere of the brain, and the idea that the Neolithic people didn’t use theirs is thoroughly trashed by Eisler, all the main advances except violence happened under the Neolithic peoples, not since, but I’ll throw that Dominator scientist a bone and say the fellow was onto something, brains changed, not just social models.
Ah, now we add the pen, and go to how the new Dominators write the books and burn anyone else’s in Chapter Six, up next.
Jeff
Aug. 16th., 2024
The Spanking Gene 